can take care of itself better than the government can. >> do they get heated? rewhat pearlman? did they get heated? >> they would say things like, this is actually on fairs children when they were having the recall on the governorship, somebody said maybe kelsy is going to run. i said i hope he does declare he's going to run because i'm going to contribute a million dollars tomorrow to defeat him. >> who said that. >> one of the producers of the show. >> you were outnumbered. >> i'm always downnumberred. >> coming up, dennis leery and john lovitz unleashed. >> i believe in a strong military. >> later, ted koppel and i go head-to-head over the popularity of the fox news channel. >> tonight, actors rob lowe, kevin spacey have become outspoken in the world of politics. we sat down recently with them. >> you say that hollywood is a one-party town, liberal democrat town. is there a reason for that? >> i think that -- i don't know what it says, not meant to be a judgment, but seems to me like creative people end up being democrats, and it's been that way -- >> is tha